"Right
here and now, one quanta away, there is raging a universe of active
intelligence that is trans-human, hyperdimensional, and extremely
alien...What is driving religious feeling today is a wish for contact
with this other universe." ~Terence McKenna...
Tyler:
so
when the heliocentric theory was proposed due to the evidence that was gathered
it was rejected by most for a while
because it was a new idea and contradicted the established belief
but eventually people hear this idea at a young age and are more likely to let it in their worldview/belief system
Marina:
yeah
that's
kind of the only faith I can have. I can only believe that sooner or
later "truth" comes out. And I hate talking about "Truth" but it's what I
sense...uhh, such a contradictory feeling
but it's sad that people who wake up to new information before most of the people cannot share it or are believed as crazy
and also people who go slower than the rest in the feeling cos
I've always felt like looking for a Truth is fake, or wrong...
and I still kind of feel it
on the other hand I can really see certain things to be RIGHT no matter what position you analize them from
not empirical information, it's deeper.
I think empirical prooves are oldfashioned, they gotta be updated with the new mix of channels we have to identify that "truth"
what do u think
I dont like when Im too sure about something I'm saying, feel like it's wrong!
Tyler:
well, i think things can be held as truth with certain conditions...
given our perception of this physical reality
so defining you're talking about within this perceived universe
defining given certain controlled variables
certain things have happened, happen and will happen according to laws of physics
[...]
Marina:
if there's a paralel Universe to this, where, time and space work
exactly the opposite way it works here...being "high", or under
entheogenic effects, or in different levels of cosciousness with serious
meditation and stuff, might just mean that we're visiting our paralel
Universe, where matter is finite, and time is infinite, that's why we
lose our sense of time and stuff (dunno how the matter being finite
might be translated like, but sure we can think of something!)
we should integrate
that binomial Universe into a fractal Universe tho: analyzing those two
Universes, that act like interacting energies, would be like zooming
from a certain distance in the fractal, like when u analyze one drop of
water that's actually in the rain
so,
from this distance, the paralel two Universes in this theory, which Im
sure Ive alreay read about soewhere else and there r like a thousand
studies and books talking about it as a possibility, I can finally
accept there r empirical laws
which was impossible for me as I couldnt see a "limit" to reallity
like: OK this is chaos, and fractals, and it all grows and grows and grows everywhere else.
with that supposition, what dies here, is in the other place lol
like
that quantum physics theory that says that the spaces between some kind
of particles disappear and appear all the time (it's in the Golden
number doc I think)
Tyler:
what is in the other place
a soul? or what?
Marina:
maybe what's finite
here, is infinite in the other place. So I guess that when time dies
here (life) it is born forever in the paralel Universe
(hahahahahhahaljashgleousrw I dont know)
that's the only solution I can think of right now...
it would make sense if u think of all the beliefs in all cultures where our "soul" goes to another eternal place
but takin it a little bit more scientifically (even if a scientist might just kill me for saying that)
Tyler:
and does life come out of this parallel universe?
Marina:
hmm
maybe time is a determined quantity in this Universe, as matter should be a limited quantity in the paralel universe
Ive thought of this before cos I wrote and drew many sketches that make more sense to me right now
ok maybe...when matter dies in the paralel Universe, it is born in a "time" shape in ours
it's information anyways, so I guess it can transmute...
Tyler:
my dmt experience was one of returning to an infinite space, passing through levels of illusion/confusion on the way back
knowing that i was always there
but thrust from that place again
a place which for whatever reason
automatically seems like what happens when you're not alive
no conception of me
for a few minutes
then slowly remembering what i am
or what i usually perceive myself as
quite the shock
for a minute or 2 i wondered how i would go on
how i could live with that
and you're pretty much all the way back
there's some little bit of knowledge that you hold onto
but the sureness of that fades with time as well
but maybe it's no big deal if you're really just going to the very core of your subconscious/consciousness
